/u/RedditTechAnon The type of ghoul that she's talking about in this
article will just make even more videos if only to spite
her. |
/u/nvmenotfound just take solace knowing those types have zero love in
their life and just want to spread misery. |
/u/Outofoffice_forever And when they die....no one will know or care. They
won't have mattered. |
/u/Yabba_Dabba_Doofus There are three deaths. The first is when the body
ceases to function. The second is when the body is
consigned to the grave. The third is that moment,
sometime in the future, when your name is spoken for the
last time.
Their 2nd and 3rd deaths will be almost simultaneous. |
/u/ooMEAToo Some of the most evil peoples names live on forever. I'd
rather I'd rather no one ever speak my name again then
be remembered as a Hitler or a Trump. |
/u/SutterCane They'll have to write their own eulogy and hope at least
one person shows up to read it. |
/u/Environmental-Dirt16 No they'll just have AI write their eulogy |
/u/BioshockEnthusiast Then the AI can read it to other AI bots and the cycle
of uselessness will be complete.
AI stans are so fucking annoying. Yes, it's a useful
tool. No, being able to use it doesn't make you special.
It's literally a translation layer for moron to
computer. If you break down the marketing, it really is
"are you too stupid to computer? Just type your broken
ass English into the prompt and let the computer do all
the computer for you!"
I'm an IT professional using it to generate scripts way
above my knowledge level and capability, so that shit
applies to me too. Yes I review and test everything and
there's an approval pipeline so my seniors can review
the code and ensure I've tested it properly before any
pilot deployments start. I'm also learning a lot but
that's only because I'm engaging with the tool,
performing my due diligence / follow up research, and
not letting it think for me.
Problem is that there are so many people out there who
use it the wrong way. You know, like the US military. |
/u/SnarkMasterRay I'm sure they think the likes and upvotes will have been
worth it, somehow.... |
/u/MegaAltarianite You don't need to be scum like that and have no love in
your life, I am proof of that. |
/u/ctrl-alt-etc Who would take solace in something like that? Maybe if
these people had love in their lives, they'd use their
time more productively. |
/u/Stellermeerkat They'll make AI videos of her praising AI videos just to
make themselves feel better. |
/u/kitsunewarlock Don't give the slopmongers that much credit. At this
point they ask Chat GPT what is currently trending and
to generate as many "potentially trending" videos as
they have tokens. |
/u/Rudigher_Jones I like that! It's what they truly are. |
/u/DonutHoles4Ever Yeah but all the name calling has done jack to stop all
the corruption and evil. You need sticks and stones |
/u/GenericFatGuy AI is really bringing out the worst in a lot of people. |
/u/Lexi_Banner I argued with a clanker today who said, with his whole
keyboard, "When I pirated music, no one complained about
it." As though the lawsuit that shut down Napster didn't
happen!
Like, the level of delusion these AI assholes is off
the charts. |
/u/Mrhiddenlotus Worse, they're gonna make horrific videos of her |
/u/KupoCheer If the laws kept up with the technology it wouldn't even
be legal for this to happen. |
/u/asdf_lord Politicians can't even keep up with all the bribes
they're getting |
/u/TheAero1221 This is the kinda headline youd expect to see in The
Onion. It isnt there though, because its true |
/u/TheModWhoShaggedMe Conservatives said they were going to drain the swamp,
but instead opened the sewers into the streets. |
/u/Strikerify It's actually comical to me that conservatives thought
that a bunch of billionaires were going to drain the
swamp. Somehow never dawned on them that....they are the
swamp. |
/u/TheAero1221 Pumped it into the living room. |
/u/LekgoloCrap Oh man, I really liked that rug :( |
/u/MisterShmitty It really pulled the room together. |
/u/Unknown-username___ Hey man I've got a beverage here |
/u/AutoCockerPB Took over, walked in, and took a shit at the desk.
Literally. |
/u/Mike_Kermin That always meant left wingers to them. They don't give
a shit what actually happens. |
/u/Fred-the-stray And stocked it with more mosquitoes |
/u/Petersens_Arm I just paid Ed Sheeran to take a neutral stance on this. |
/u/zuzg Dude is really busy since he's become opening and
closing act at once. |
/u/Cold417 Let me know once he hits roadie status. |
/u/ROBtimusPrime1995 Seeing as Paramount bullied and bribed their way to
buying Warner and the politicians against
them...yeah....yeah, man. |
/u/topscreen Hey give some of them some slack, a bunch are on their
way getting puppeted around like Mitch |
/u/wasabiburning To be fair, they're all in their 80s, to them the
Victrola is still the newfangled gizmo. |
/u/kiwiboyus I watched a talk about this the other day and they were
saying there are plenty of existing laws that could be
applied to the new technologies like LLMs, but they
aren't doing it yet. Probably because the whole house of
cards would fall down |
/u/BioshockEnthusiast AI is the economy's golden goose right now and the
powers that be will pull out all the stops to prevent
anyone from fucking with that. |
/u/jce_ I don't think it's a law thing. There is no law not to
paint pictures of dead people or impersonate dead
people. It's more of a shame thing. Most people don't do
it, unless it's to show love to them, because it's kinda
weird |
/u/mOdQuArK Make people financially liable for creating & spreading
blatant gaslighting & disinformation, even for things
they mindlessly forwarded or helped to forward.
Then put out bounties on the most egregious examples
for the lawyers to get their teeth into.
After a few bankruptcies, anyone publishing or
forwarding anything will be a lot more careful about
their due diligence. |
/u/The_MAZZTer It's probably nearly impossible to quantify financial
harm but it would be easier with social media etc to get
a ballpark figure of how far information has spread, and
require them to spread a retraction just as far if not
farther. |
/u/RemarkableWish2508 ...everyone, except the POTUS, that is.
His stuff is parody and obvious free speech... who
doesn't like watching that AI video where he dumps a ton
of literal shit from a fighter jet down onto people,
right? |
/u/funnylib If only half of Congress wasn't born before the
popularization of color television |
/u/RemarkableWish2508 Who's more: the Congress, or the Citizens?
Stop looking for scapegoats, if you don't like
something, then be the change you want to see in the
world. |
/u/extrakerned What I do with my own computer for personal use is my
business and shouldn't be controlled by any government
as long as I am not harming others. |
/u/Only_Standard_9159 https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2023/05/p
roblem-counterfeit-people/674075/ |
/u/NYstate Nah all of the tech bros have trump in their pockets. |
/u/Finkelton if only we had more laws it would surely stop all the
crimes.
as if anyone of actual power is ever held accountable.
petty dumb bullshit over fake a.i videos, yep, that's
the scarry thing. |
/u/-Hikifroggy- But who would think about those poor shareholders?? |
/u/Ateist Why?
If it is legal to write a fanfic with a character it is
legal to have AI video with that character.
I seriously doubt that anyone is creating AI videos of
Robin Williams.
They are creating AI videos of characters he depicted. |
/u/Hot-Guard-9119 Man, reddit is so out of touch with reality
"just take solace knowing those types have zero love in
their life and just want to spread misery."
"And when they die....no one will know or care. They
won't have mattered."
How is making AI video different from good old video
editing? How is it different from photoshop? How is it
different from writing a fanfiction?
These people are so ideologically captured that they
can't logically think for a second. |
/u/Refute1650 I'd really like that but how would that be legal? I'd be
the same as banning painting or drawing. |
/u/lucidludic No it wouldn't, because people can paint or draw without
copying copyrighted content without permission on an
incomprehensible scale. |
/u/puts_on_rddt Practically, the cat is out of the bag. China releases
models publicly that anyone can download and run on
consumer hardware. How can you actually combat this? |
/u/lucidludic That's unrelated to whether we can hold genAI companies
accountable without "banning painting or drawing."
We could certainly eliminate a majority of the harm
caused today if we only targeted US and European genAI
companies providing commercial services. The vast
majority of users are not running sophisticated genAI
models on their own hardware. In any case, the enormous
investment into those local models being used is largely
based on the aforementioned companies being allowed to
commercialise genAI services built using copyrighted
content. |
/u/puts_on_rddt The vast majority of users are not running sophisticated
genAI models on their own hardware.
Only because they don't need to. If you banned US and
EU cloud models, people would start using these local
models more often. The hardware supply isn't going to be
like this forever, and the models get better over time.
I'm not arguing with you. I legitimately don't think
this has a good solution. |
/u/lucidludic Some more people would, but a tiny fraction of regular
users of these services today. Mostly because of
friction but also because what you can run locally on a
typical computer simply does not compare with
state-of-the-art cloud models.
and the models get better over time.
I suspect development would slow considerably if we
removed the vast majority of the financial incentives.
I legitimately don't think this has a good solution.
Of course it wouldn't be perfect but it would surely
help to reduce the harmful impacts of genAI,
particularly with respect to copyright / IP infringement
and disinformation. |
/u/TheRedditorSimon There are post-mortem copyright protections for the
likeness of actors, notably the Astaire Celebrity Image
Protection Act. Suing the schmucks using Mr Williams'
image is trivial and not the best optics. Suing the AI
companies is far more rewarding. Buuut, the tech bros
have a lot of money and Rich Shithead #1 has Trump and
the GOP in his pocket. Sooo... we've got an evolving
situation politically in the US. If the GOP wins, expect
more celeb image wanking. If they lose, then the Dems
get to roll a saving throw versus shitloads of cash. |
/u/wizzywurtzy Make AI of Trump and Elon and it'll happen fast.
Remember the video of Trump sucking Elons toes? Now
imagine if that was AI |
/u/recycled_ideas And how would they stop it?
Technically using his likeness this way is already a
civil case, but you can create this content in minutes
on any machine with a moderately good graphics card.
The more famous someone is the more likely the models
will be able to do it out of the box because the more
samples of that person will be in the data set. |
/u/cortesoft The law already protects your name, image, and likeness
(NIL, famous now because of court rulings for college
athletes).
His heirs own his likeness, and many states in the US
protect this for at least 50+ years (some states protect
indefinitely, others for 100 years).
So this is already likely illegal.
That doesn't mean it is easy to enforce that, though.
More laws wouldn't make it necessarily easier, either. |
/u/no-name-here Aren't the protections only if for a commercial purpose?
Especially for a public figure. |
/u/SpillingMistake But we have to "go as fast as we can, irrespective of
anyone else" |
/u/Gold_Assistance_6764 How is this different than painting a picture of him, or
portraying him in a play? I ask, not because I don't
think there is a difference, but because I'm curious how
you would write the laws to prevent this but not
infringe on the creative expression of ideas. |
/u/mightylordredbeard Hell, Congress still hasn't gotten around to those
LaserDisc regulations yet so we've got some time before
we get to AI. |
/u/GhostOfRumsfeld666 How would this even be possible? It would be like
arresting people for drawing a famous person. There are
already laws for not profiting off this. You can't
police what people are doing for free for their own
entertainment and sharing on the internet for free if
it's not violating intellectual property. |
/u/AsinineArchon One of many reasons politicians representing us should
not be fossils |
/u/Ok_Science_2070 Best we can do is funding ICE concentration camps |
/u/GoodBadUserName Only when it affects them or their lobbyists directly.
Start using AI directly on them, will make them rush to
make laws against it. |
/u/azureal They'll just do it more now because it's getting
traction far higher than they expected. "Oh his kid is
noticing? Hell yeah. Let's have him riding a unicycle
with Harambe next!"
With zero regulation comes zero morals. |
/u/Kolbin8tor I'm sure the mythical and infallible market will jump
right in and self-correct this unethical behavior any
minute.
Oh mighty supply-side Jesus, we beseech thee! |
/u/Mistyslate The market will correct once it causes another market
crash and Great Depression. Regulations are what
prevents such incidents every ten years. |
/u/rasa2013 The earliest hint I had they were full of shit is that
they sing the praises of the free market without ever
acknowledging very basic concepts about how they go
wrong.
E.g., market failure or monopolies. |
/u/NativePlantEnjoyer People using AI to generate slop don't have values or
morals. |
/u/morechair The zero morals comes first. |
/u/octopornopus Robin was a Koko man... |
/u/Last_Notice4137 Harambe's Death was when everything REALLY started
sliding downhill in Society. Not because of Harambe's
Death itself, but the Time that it happened relating to
the outside world. |
/u/pinkpugita Yeah, they never care whether they get positive or
negative reaction. As long as they get clicks and pushed
by algorithms, it is a win for them. |
/u/EverWatcher https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NoSuchThingA
sBadPublicity |
/u/Fuddle Meta's new AI tool just offered to animate pictures of
two or three of my loved ones who passed away recently.
I hate this timeline |
/u/Anal-buttsex I saw an AI video of a lady saving Steve Irwin from a
sting ray. It's creepy stuff, I'd hate to be a family
member being shown that. |
/u/OsoSalado I agree Anal-buttsex, how can me moderate how people use
AI to ensure responsible use? |
/u/daddy_tops I saw a post on Reddit of a photo of a fan with a
celebrity and someone ran the image through AI to make
them kiss and posted it like it was a completely normal
thing to do |
/u/CanadasNeighbor People don't have to be ashamed anymore. The internet
gave people reach, but it also gave them anonymity. So
now people with nothing but shit to offer can easily
share it with all of us, anonymously! |
/u/things_U_choose_2_b Back in the day, every village had its idiot. When the
village idiot said something stupid, everyone just went
"ignore the village idiot" and carried on with their
day.
Now, social media has given every village idiot a group
to belong to, which reinforces their behaviour and draws
in more idiots. Flat earth? Chemtrails? Vaccines cause
autism? Pick your poison. |
/u/GitEmSteveDave Not only that, but it gives them power to silence
opposition. I have a friend who is in entertainment, and
he will only post on places that let him block/delete
comments made by others that disagree with/try to fact
check him. |
/u/TraditionDear3887 This is my biggest concern with Proportional
Representation. It just let's all the disparate idiots
consolidate power. |
/u/Poonchow The printing press isn't really seen as a net negative,
these days, but it had a similar sort of democratizing
and chaos-inducing effect. It sparked religious unrest
across Europe and instigated a lot of wars, along with
Enlightenment thinking and all the positives. My hope is
that regulations catch up and the swing-back toward
positive applications of social media and AI come around
sooner rather than later. In the meantime, it's looking
bleak being in the middle of it. |
/u/Shasan23 At least we don't have have the 30 years war (yet), the
culmination/climax of all the religious tension brought
about by the printing press and reformation. I think it
is very underrated and unrecognized with respect to the
insane amount of devastation and destruction it caused |
/u/NATIK001 Experience from countries with proportional
representation kinda shows the opposite. The idiots tend
to group together in a small group that never really
gets too much power, they are loud and annoying sure,
but they rarely get to have real power.
In things like First Past the Post, you tend to see
idiots gaining power due to backroom deals,
Machiavellian shenanigans and quirks of the rules,
things the voters cannot influence.
One of the primary reasons the idiots were allowed to
take charge in USA is that people either don't vote, or
they feel both sides are the same any way and don't care
much whom they vote for. With proportional voting people
would feel that those they vote for share their ideals
to a much higher degree, which increases the likelihood
that people vote, which means a few idiots or malicious
actors have a much harder time controlling the vote.
Proportional voting doesn't favor the idiots, I would
argue it does the exact opposite. |
/u/TraditionDear3887 Not sure what data you are looking at. Democracy works
best when electoral districts represent real world local
communities.
How can idiots gather together in fptp?
I think you are conflating the USA's two party system
eith FPTP |
/u/DragoonDM These days, doesn't seem like people even really need
anonymity to be shamelessly horrible. |
/u/Barnacle_B0b Anonymity on the internet is a good thing. Especially
with fascist governments and corporations actively
suppressing dissent and the sharing of knowledge. |
/u/pbagel2 Please do not blame anonymity. The majority of people
doing this shit are doing it with their full name and
faces on public spaces like facebook or youtube. They
straight up have no shame.
Or they're from a different country with different
cultural expectations and values. |
/u/inaSlomp Worse, it gave them attention. For the actions people
used to have shame for.
They don't even want the anonymity of it. They claim
it. |
/u/Great-Trifle2810 And yet people freak out when someone makes the
incredibly obvious suggestion to fix this with identity
verification on the internet 🙄 |
/u/King_Bobby-B I'd say this is mostly true in modern mass social media,
where one account gets you access to any group /
subreddit / hashtag, even when you're barely interested
in a given topic.
Old forums had a bit more "natural" relationships,
because the communities were smaller (because you needed
to find them, and also bother to register and possibly
pass through a verification period). You definitely
wanted to be on good terms with everyone, and if you did
something wrong in a subforum, the gossip followed you
throughout the other sections. Trolls and annoying
idiots were dealt with swiftly, too. |
/u/PlainBread getting chuds to feel shame difficulty: impossible |
/u/hextanerf sue them for violating the rights to her father's
likeness and image |
/u/Illustrious_Eye_8235 From what I recall he had a pretty strict clause in his
estate that only a certain charity could use his
likeness in any way shape or form. He didn't want to be
a 3D copy like Prince and Tupac were |
/u/Woooferine I agree. Sue every single one of them, that is the only
way to silence these shameless imbeciles. |
/u/rainghost I've seen her comment on AI multiple times, and I do
100% believe her about people generating ghoulish videos
about Robin, but I've never seen a single one myself. I
mostly just use Reddit and Twitter, is this more of an
Instagram or Tiktok thing? |
/u/Primal-Convoy I don't see them on YouTube, but then again, I use 3P
apps and extensions to block or hide a lot of the crud
on YouTube. |
/u/amazing_asstronaut Honestly I've had enough, none of this digital
recreation of passed away actors business should exist
at all. Just don't do it. There's never a good reason,
and it always comes out bad. I understand if they are on
the movie and they suddenly pass away and they got to
fix up the rest of the scenes somehow etc. But if it's a
new movie and they just want to put digital recreation
of someone in there for no good reason, like Ian Holm in
Alien, or Peter Cushing in Star Wars, or Paul Walker in
Fast & the Furious. Why? Already goes to show how shit
our culture is that we're getting remakes and sequels
for things that are over 40 years old, that's why we
keep running into this. No one sane thinks of a new
movie to make but let's put this actor in who's been
dead for 30 years. Yes every so often a cringe company
comes out saying how they want to make a James Dean
movie set in the Vietnam War, for whatever the fuck
reason, but then it never happens so who cares.
This is part of it, and I promise you movie companies
are researching the pros and cons of full AI recreation
of people for that reason. The fact that regular people
can make these videos is just extra annoying. |
/u/B00marangTrotter People are disgusting, and this literally sounds like
something trump would do, cause he has with Obama and
his critics. |
/u/FIFofNovember Imagine perusing the internet and then suddenly seeing
your dead relative in a video they never made with their
body, saying things they never said but in their exact
voice.
Its legit gotta not be good for your head space. |
/u/Shasan23 This might sound pathetic, but I recently ended a
relationship in large part due to her perspective being
warped by chat gpt and social media. For any issue she
had, she went to chat gpt and sent texts copying and
pasting responses, even for personal issues. She wanted
me to copy paste chat gpt in texts to my own sister over
some disagreement we were working on, which I felt so
disgusted about. Like, you can't work through
interpersonal friction on your own (a fundamental skill
for life)and need ai to think for you?!? And chat gpt is
such a sycophant, praising the user, that she came to
have that expectation with human interactions and got
upset when other people didn't treat her as the most
amazing smart talented person ever, like chat gpt would.
Venting a bit and I can write so much more, but this
shit is getting real... And it's only going to get
worse. AI psychosis/delusion will be the disease of the
century, I've had the misfortune to witness it first
hand |
/u/FIFofNovember Sounds like you made a healthy decision, that kinda use
is not normal, or at least shouldn't be, sounds like it
would cause way more problems that it would fix. |
/u/JoyousCacophony All these years later, I still can't watch Robin's
movies... It just hits me too hard. I can't even fathom
what it would take to make bullshit AI nonsense with
him.
Worse... I can't imagine what it's like for Zelda to
have to be exposed to them. |
/u/man_machine_poet If social media is a cancer on society, AI is a
particularly aggressive malignant variant. |
/u/Capital_Lab_8318 she's right, and the fact that people need reminding a
dead person's face and voice aren't public-domain toys
is pretty bleak |
/u/ApophisDayParade The kind of people doing this get off on everyone else's
collective anger and are not worth it |
/u/Puzzled-Platform-969 Her name is Zelda. She deserves the respect of her name. |
/u/GitEmSteveDave What is more informative at a glance:
Robin Williams' daughter
One is just a name you may not know and don't know the
exact relationship with the named actor. The other
describes it in 3 words. |
/u/aptninja You really think she cares about that? She clearly wants
less attention on her and the family, not more |
/u/Garchompisbestboi Not really, headlines are generally meant to be concise
and the only reason that she's relevant is because of
her her father happens to be. |
/u/wytewydow A little more shame all around would be great for our
society, or what's left of it. |
/u/PottyMcSmokerson I have yet to see any AI Robin Williams posts. But I did
pick up a copy of Moscow on the Hudson on VHS recently.
Never heard of the movie but the cover was cool.
Surprised to see a young Russian Robin Williams. |